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>> you talk to a lot of folks in the romney campaign and they say joe biden is the gift that keeps on giving. you saw him pause when he said four years. i think he meant to say the last 10 years, and it came out wrong. this is fodder for the obama campaign. it will not change, i do not think, in a huge way, the course of events, buthere is no question the obama campaign folks, every time biden is out there, they are nervous about what he is going to say, how it comes out. they would prefer to have barack obama cleaning up barack obama this week, rather than joe biden cleaning up barack obama. >> what do you think? the vice presidential debate is coming up. >> it just so happens joe biden and paul ryan respect each other and get along well. those two were the ones that had allhe protestants. i think this will be a fun debate, and enjoyable debate. joe biden has a good sense of humor. you are not going to see him paint barack obama in his debate. >> i hope it is more interesting. yes, there were 50 million people calling the first debate, and the question i have is, for how long? i was
>> you talk to a lot of folks in the romney campaign and they say joe biden is the gift that keeps on giving. you saw him pause when he said four years. i think he meant to say the last 10 years, and it came out wrong. this is fodder for the obama campaign. it will not change, i do not think, in a huge way, the course of events, buthere is no question the obama campaign folks, every time biden is out there, they are nervous about what he is going to say, how it comes out. they would...
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>> you talk to a lot of folks in the romney campaign and is a joe biden is the gift that keeps on giving. you saw him pause when he said four years. i think he meant to say 10 years or something. it came out wrong. this is fodder for the romney campaign. all not changed, i do not think, in a huge way, the course of events. there is no question that the obama campaign folks, every time joe biden is out there, partners about how it will come out. they would prefer to have barack obama cleaning up barack obama this week, rather than joe biden cleaning him up. >> what do you think? vice-presidential debate is coming up. >> it just so happens that joe biden and paul ryan respect each other and get along very well. there were debt negotiations with those two were the ones that had the best rapport of all the participants. i think it will be a fun and enjoyable debate. joe biden has a good sense of humor. you are not going to see him and barack obama in the debate. >> i hope it is an existing debate. there were 50 million people watching the first debate. the question i have is, for how long? i
>> you talk to a lot of folks in the romney campaign and is a joe biden is the gift that keeps on giving. you saw him pause when he said four years. i think he meant to say 10 years or something. it came out wrong. this is fodder for the romney campaign. all not changed, i do not think, in a huge way, the course of events. there is no question that the obama campaign folks, every time joe biden is out there, partners about how it will come out. they would prefer to have barack obama...
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avoiding this cliff we're walking towards, and romney talked about walking across this abyss. the president's response was sometimes you have to say no to people? and mitt said the first two years of his presidency, they just rammed things through without a single republican vote. that makes it probably one of the more important debates in american history, and perhaps i'm exaggerating because i'm so happy. >> i can't blame you. i can't blame any republicans because it's been a very bruising few weeks for the republicans and mitt romney, and then suddenly everything seems to have turned on its head. you're in a unique position because you've debated against both mitt romney and barack obama. interestingly, romney is believed from the latest polls to have won 67% to 25%. when you went head to head with obama in 2008, the polls said 51% obama, 38% mccain. do you think you would have done better against the obama that was debating this week? >> i think so, piers, but, you know, it would sound like i am now trying to rewrite history or i would have done better. you know, i've neve
avoiding this cliff we're walking towards, and romney talked about walking across this abyss. the president's response was sometimes you have to say no to people? and mitt said the first two years of his presidency, they just rammed things through without a single republican vote. that makes it probably one of the more important debates in american history, and perhaps i'm exaggerating because i'm so happy. >> i can't blame you. i can't blame any republicans because it's been a very...
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most people are watching, and it takes away a key talking point for governor romney. he was saying for 43 months straight, unemployment was above 8%. it's no longer something me can say. >> okay. ed, with respect to the conspiracy theories, despite jared doesn't want to give it more oxygen, just a little bit more here. mitt romney is not latched on to their rhetoric. could all of this talk damage him, though, in the long run? in some ways it's highlighting the fact it's below 8%. this number, 7.8. >> it certainly robs him of the ability to say in a campaign speech as he has since he launched his campaign, that the unemployment rate is above 8%. but as he said yesterday, most americans would agree with him on, you know, we can do better. the number still isn't good. i think everyone would agree looking at the numbers that came out yesterday that, you know, 100,000-plus is fine, but really want to create 200,000-plus. you want to see employment growth everywhere. you don't want to see hundreds of thousands of people leaving the workforce. on that, there is general agree
most people are watching, and it takes away a key talking point for governor romney. he was saying for 43 months straight, unemployment was above 8%. it's no longer something me can say. >> okay. ed, with respect to the conspiracy theories, despite jared doesn't want to give it more oxygen, just a little bit more here. mitt romney is not latched on to their rhetoric. could all of this talk damage him, though, in the long run? in some ways it's highlighting the fact it's below 8%. this...
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of the speech yesterday from governor romney where he talked about defense cuts and his proposals, paul ryan voted for the sequester and cuts, how does paul ryan defend his original budget and medicare proposals in contrast to what governor romney is now proposing? >> well, what matters now is, what is governor romney's plan going forward and paul ryan has signed up for the romney plan. specifically with respect to the sequester, governor romney is opposed to it. in fact, when that was decided last summer governor romney issued a statement specifically mentions the prospect of some devastating cuts to our national defense budget should sequestration become necessary. so the governor has made it a priority to reverse the obama defense cuts. it's not just the $500 billion that will happen as a result of sequestratio sequestration, another $500 billion in the works. the president's defense secretary has said the combination of the obama defense cuts with sequestration will be devastating to our military. it will further weaken our standings in the world and embolden our adversaries. >> wha
of the speech yesterday from governor romney where he talked about defense cuts and his proposals, paul ryan voted for the sequester and cuts, how does paul ryan defend his original budget and medicare proposals in contrast to what governor romney is now proposing? >> well, what matters now is, what is governor romney's plan going forward and paul ryan has signed up for the romney plan. specifically with respect to the sequester, governor romney is opposed to it. in fact, when that was...
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i have to tell you, i talked to a senior romney advisor about this pew research center poll and they look at a couple things here. in relation to these polls. they are looking at the enthusiasm that is coming out at some of their campaign events. i can tell you, we have been at several of these campaign events over the last several days and they are getting some big turnouts, sometimes in excess of 10,000 people, and while yes, that may not be obama campaign numbers, those are good numbers for mitt romney. another thing that they're looking at, they are looking at undecided voters. they feel like undecided voters, because of that debate being viewed by so many millions of americans last week, that mitt romney was able to reach through the filter of the media as they like to call it, ann romney referred to it that way in an event in florida last week, and beyond those campaign ads, the very nasty campaign ads coming from the obama campaign to talk directly to the american people, and they feel like that's a factor as well. they are also looking at what they call persuadable voters, th
i have to tell you, i talked to a senior romney advisor about this pew research center poll and they look at a couple things here. in relation to these polls. they are looking at the enthusiasm that is coming out at some of their campaign events. i can tell you, we have been at several of these campaign events over the last several days and they are getting some big turnouts, sometimes in excess of 10,000 people, and while yes, that may not be obama campaign numbers, those are good numbers for...
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you know what romney will say because he gives romney the talking points. [laughter] >> is that first thing in the morning? >> they call me at 6:00 a.m. every morning. i tell them, yes. >> it is better than what you guys do, which is to receive the talking points. i'm sorry. that was a low blow. >> i think mark is exactly right. what was really devastating in that debate was the perception of the president as weak and romney as presidential. that is the key difference. in 1980, people did not want to re-elect jimmy carter. but there were not prepared to go to reagan because they were afraid of him as a right-wing nut. he shows up at the debate and, oh, shucks, there he goes again. he is in avuncular. he is not a guy who's going to blow up the world and the election is over. obama is not where carter was. he is a lot stronger. >> and mitt romney is not where reagan was. >> that is right, but he's still on the edge. that will not be a landslide. it will be a small margin. but if you reach the threshold of being acceptable as being the president, as strong, th
you know what romney will say because he gives romney the talking points. [laughter] >> is that first thing in the morning? >> they call me at 6:00 a.m. every morning. i tell them, yes. >> it is better than what you guys do, which is to receive the talking points. i'm sorry. that was a low blow. >> i think mark is exactly right. what was really devastating in that debate was the perception of the president as weak and romney as presidential. that is the key difference....
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he and governor romney know the election's all about the economy and both men were trading jabs today in the battleground state of virginia. >> today's news certainly is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> when i'm president of the united states, that unemployment rate is going to come down not because people are giving up and dropping out of the work force, but because we're creating more jobs. i will create jobs and get america working again. >> let's get right to tonight's big story. with senator john mccain, the arizona senator and former presidential candidate joining me now. welcome to you, senator. >> thank you, piers. >> we are going to come to the debate in a moment. you've been one of the only people who debated both barack obama and mitt romney so you're in a unique place to tell me what you made of the new style romney and indeed, obama. before we get there, though, today's big news on the jobs front. whichever way you spin this from the republican side, this
he and governor romney know the election's all about the economy and both men were trading jabs today in the battleground state of virginia. >> today's news certainly is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> when i'm president of the united states, that unemployment rate is going to come down not because people are giving up and dropping out of the work force, but because...
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i have no idea what you are talking about. >> last week mitt romney dominated in his first debate against president obama. the president even admitted he had a bad night. >> your supporters have been saying you did not show up. >> there's no doubt i can make a better case, which is why i so look forward to tuesday. >> is it possible you gave up your reelection that night. >> no. >> we cannot afford another series of budget deficits of roughly $1 trillion per year. this is not just bad for the economy. it's bad for jobs. >> brandi hitt, abc news, ky. >> during tonight's debate, log on to wjla.com/react from your compatible smartphone tablets or browser and give us your reaction. we will show the results on abc 7 news at 11:00. we are looking at 48 degrees >> . still to come, an update on a man brutally beaten near the eastern market area in the district. captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> thursday morning, welcome back. adam caskey and with a look at your forecast. it may be a lot cooler today than yesterday by about 10 degrees. tomorrow will be verisimila
i have no idea what you are talking about. >> last week mitt romney dominated in his first debate against president obama. the president even admitted he had a bad night. >> your supporters have been saying you did not show up. >> there's no doubt i can make a better case, which is why i so look forward to tuesday. >> is it possible you gave up your reelection that night. >> no. >> we cannot afford another series of budget deficits of roughly $1 trillion per...
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a much more heated match compared to the one between president obama and mitt romney. they talked about national security, foreign policy, taxes, jobs, and clashed over whether the new healthcare reform law put medicare on sounder footing. >> they got caught with their hands in the cookie jar, turning medicare into a piggy bank for obamacare. their own actuaries said 1-6 hospitals and nursing homes are going to go out of business as a result of this >> that's not what they said. >> millions of seniors are projected to lose the coverage they have. >> that didn't happen. more people signed up . whoa, whoa. more people signed up for medicare advantage after the change. nobody is saying that. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost rounds. [ laughter ] >> i think people would be better served if we don't keep interrupting >> don't take all the 4 minutes then. >> don't change benefits for people. >> the next debate is the second presidential debate. that's going to take the form of a town hall meeting. citizens will be asking questions of the candidates o
a much more heated match compared to the one between president obama and mitt romney. they talked about national security, foreign policy, taxes, jobs, and clashed over whether the new healthcare reform law put medicare on sounder footing. >> they got caught with their hands in the cookie jar, turning medicare into a piggy bank for obamacare. their own actuaries said 1-6 hospitals and nursing homes are going to go out of business as a result of this >> that's not what they said....
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. >> we're talking about mitt romney has to defend this. no, they don't. >> that's going to be the objective of biden to put them on. >> they didn't bring a game because they don't have a game. their game has been to attack romney and ryan. >> that's a game. >> yes, to us it's a game. to voters dshl >> it's a strategy. if a man is proposing to turn medicare into a voucher program. if paul ryan says 60% of americans are makers, not takers, it's an obligation to highlight that. >> paul ryan is not going to let himself get sucked into defending a position he doesn't hold. >> one of the things that's difficult with the media is we focus on the horse race aspect of this. there's a horse race aspect. but there's a history aspect. this guy could be president. paul ryan could be president. so it's very important for us to pay attention. he did in fact say 60% of americans are makers -- are takers, not makers. he said that social security is a ponzi scheme and socialism. >> joe biden's oldest son says his dad knows how to land a political punch. we'
. >> we're talking about mitt romney has to defend this. no, they don't. >> that's going to be the objective of biden to put them on. >> they didn't bring a game because they don't have a game. their game has been to attack romney and ryan. >> that's a game. >> yes, to us it's a game. to voters dshl >> it's a strategy. if a man is proposing to turn medicare into a voucher program. if paul ryan says 60% of americans are makers, not takers, it's an obligation...
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i have believed for years and i have written it for years, in a sense what romney is talking about makes a lot of sense. we have to lower the tax rate for everybody. not so much for the wealthy, but for the middle class of this country. and the way you compensate for the lower rates is by eliminating a lot of these it'd mizeed deductions. by the -- right miosessed deductions. -- itemized deductions. it is a progressive way of taxing. it is most stimulus thing you can do for the economy. >>> i don't get it give me the addition. why is that going to create more wealth? and spread it around? >> that's right. because you will increase the real incomes of the middle class of america. >> why? because they are going to have better jobs? >> no they'll have lower tax rates and less deductions, okay? that is the way it will average out. and they will be willing to spend, the same thing would be true of business. they would lose a lot of their deductions but they'll have lower rates. if you saw the numbers, okay, there is 1 frillian 12 libyan billion dollars that comes out of the tax revenue and 1
i have believed for years and i have written it for years, in a sense what romney is talking about makes a lot of sense. we have to lower the tax rate for everybody. not so much for the wealthy, but for the middle class of this country. and the way you compensate for the lower rates is by eliminating a lot of these it'd mizeed deductions. by the -- right miosessed deductions. -- itemized deductions. it is a progressive way of taxing. it is most stimulus thing you can do for the economy....
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actually both of them talking how barack obama has a more favorable rating and mitt romney both are pretty divisive they are fairly divided. party is they don't see everything they want to see so it is not surprising the economy and jobs that people think about the other issues and they make a choice but this between what they are offered. >> barings is some moller terminology. we year both dipping into rest questions but the goals are different we're trying to identify a broader themes and attitudes campaign polls are about targeting to influence. sometimes the best strategic advice to drive up the negatives. greasy it in these ads with the pledge closed over billion dollars. ha sows to dip into public opinion even though the methods are the same come with the goals are different >> and you need to get the supporters out to vote by talking about solutions that provide compromise. not necessarily a campaign strategy for the most effective to focus on consensus and compromise if you want people to vote for you is the strongest supporters that will be there on election day. >> thank you for
actually both of them talking how barack obama has a more favorable rating and mitt romney both are pretty divisive they are fairly divided. party is they don't see everything they want to see so it is not surprising the economy and jobs that people think about the other issues and they make a choice but this between what they are offered. >> barings is some moller terminology. we year both dipping into rest questions but the goals are different we're trying to identify a broader themes...
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-- and i will talk about both campaigns, i think one of the challenges the romney campaign will have is that he is not connecting. he does not connect. and what's wrong with mitt romney? he seems like a nice enough guy to me. he was my governor for a while and i thought he was pretty competent in massachusetts. one of the things he has not done in terms of connecting was it's not dislike he's not connecting with people, but the thing that's really going on is he has not been able to say why his time at bain capital would make him ready for president. that's a connection that i think people are not seeing. he can get warm and talk about roses on his mother's bedside table, like at the convention, which was moving. but until we start connecting in that way, i think he will continue to struggle. obama campaign going into the debate does not have the burden and probably should talk about what the next four years will be like. i expect that will happen during the debates. i say they don't have the burden because i'm talking tactically. the challenger does have that burden. we have a histo
-- and i will talk about both campaigns, i think one of the challenges the romney campaign will have is that he is not connecting. he does not connect. and what's wrong with mitt romney? he seems like a nice enough guy to me. he was my governor for a while and i thought he was pretty competent in massachusetts. one of the things he has not done in terms of connecting was it's not dislike he's not connecting with people, but the thing that's really going on is he has not been able to say why his...
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let's watch a clip today of governor romney talking about abortion. >> what is the correct position of governor romney? he was always saying we need to revert row wade and now he is saying not even that. people says whatever it suits him depending on whether he is appealing to the hard right. mr. moderate mitt that we haven't seen for months. >> you know, listen, to what he is referring to as far as is there piles of specific legislation that he is going to point to? the fact is, he is always has been an he is committed to being a pro life president and committed to the fact that we will not be funding planned parenthood to fund abortions and committed to the mexico city legislation so that it is being used to perform abortions and he is a pro life president and he is proud of it. you are taking that sound byte and referring to piles of legislation sitting in congress and it is much to do about nothing. this president hasn't performed and he is chasing every rob it down the trail making this about his own record and the miserable condition about the economy. >> it comes down to trust.
let's watch a clip today of governor romney talking about abortion. >> what is the correct position of governor romney? he was always saying we need to revert row wade and now he is saying not even that. people says whatever it suits him depending on whether he is appealing to the hard right. mr. moderate mitt that we haven't seen for months. >> you know, listen, to what he is referring to as far as is there piles of specific legislation that he is going to point to? the fact is, he...
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let's listen to mitt romney talking about abortion. >> do you intend to pursue legislation specifically regarding abortion? >> there is no legislation regarding abortion that i'm familiar with that would become part of my agenda. >> now the democrats have seized on this, you can't really blame them, because his position on abortion does change, according to the strength. he was very much in favor of pro choice, governor of massachusetts, now he is in favor of pro life. but he always as a pro lifer said we need to revert to roe v wade, people say he says what suits him, depending on whether he is appealing to the hard right of the party, or as he is now, according to bill clinton, mr. moderate mitt, that we haven't seen it for a few months. >> well, first of all, i couldn't hear it very well, i assume it is referring to the des moines register. but are there piles of legislation sitting in congress that he is going to point to? the des moines register editorial board? the fact is, he is and has always been committed to being a pro-life president. he is committed to the fact that he will
let's listen to mitt romney talking about abortion. >> do you intend to pursue legislation specifically regarding abortion? >> there is no legislation regarding abortion that i'm familiar with that would become part of my agenda. >> now the democrats have seized on this, you can't really blame them, because his position on abortion does change, according to the strength. he was very much in favor of pro choice, governor of massachusetts, now he is in favor of pro life. but he...
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. >> this time around, mitt romney came out and talked about people he had met, a woman with a baby in her arms who told him how difficult it was, a couple that was not able to afford their health care. and you know, he, i think, made the points that he needed to make about the data, but he humanized them and i think that was a great achievement of his on the debate. >> paul: health care distraction from job creation, you inherit a recession, a financial crisis, and instead of focusing on that, romney is saying, you spent two years trying to pass one of your big priorities in social legislation and that's hurt job creation, a powerful point. >> yeah, it's a good point, but i think the health care issue is not going to go away in this debate. we're going to hear more of it. barack obama was defending his idea of obamacare and medicare and said for instance, that medicare works because the insurance companies have to make a profit on top of their administrative cost, medicare doesn't have to do that and it's lowered administrative costs and therefore a better deal. he said that romney's
. >> this time around, mitt romney came out and talked about people he had met, a woman with a baby in her arms who told him how difficult it was, a couple that was not able to afford their health care. and you know, he, i think, made the points that he needed to make about the data, but he humanized them and i think that was a great achievement of his on the debate. >> paul: health care distraction from job creation, you inherit a recession, a financial crisis, and instead of...
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we talk to the staff and we began talking to the romney staff six months ago in april and they were very encouraging why, yes, we would want to take part of this it's a tradition and it has become one. and then something happened. we don't know what. but all of a sudden it was he can't fit it into his schedule. and that's all they would ever say. he cannot fit it into his schedule. it takes 30 minutes. >> does the romney campaign know the precedent here of how it's a tradition that candidates have been doing for a long time? >> well, yes. we've spoken to them many times and exchanged a number of e-mails. i have to correct you. sorry. one factual error and i'm afraid that it got printed yesterday and it got spread around and it is wrong. kids did not pick al gore in 2000. kids voted for george bush in 2000. the one where they missed in the last -- this started in 1988, actually. andy
we talk to the staff and we began talking to the romney staff six months ago in april and they were very encouraging why, yes, we would want to take part of this it's a tradition and it has become one. and then something happened. we don't know what. but all of a sudden it was he can't fit it into his schedule. and that's all they would ever say. he cannot fit it into his schedule. it takes 30 minutes. >> does the romney campaign know the precedent here of how it's a tradition that...
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when mitt romney gives you an opening to talk about romney's accountant and doesn't say you have a terrific accountant. chris: s.e. cupp, your view, was it a reset for the challenger? >> they certainly think it was. i talked to some romney advisors and they see the reset in three parts. they think for supporters who really wanted to see a fight, they wanted to see this knockout, dragout fight, they got that. for undecideds who they call the tough customers, they think that this debate does what the ads have not been able to do which is spark their attention. for the soft obama voters of 2008, they think maybe this group is in play again. they think this is a hat trick moving forward. chris: let me ask you, we have a big jobs number, it was below eight and was promised three years ago and is below eight, 7.8. is it enough to give obama a reshot of momentum? >> it's certainly a boost. is it a sugar high? these numbers bounce around. chris: good for the next month, though. >> good for the next month but the final judgment will come the weekend before the election. if this ends up being revised
when mitt romney gives you an opening to talk about romney's accountant and doesn't say you have a terrific accountant. chris: s.e. cupp, your view, was it a reset for the challenger? >> they certainly think it was. i talked to some romney advisors and they see the reset in three parts. they think for supporters who really wanted to see a fight, they wanted to see this knockout, dragout fight, they got that. for undecideds who they call the tough customers, they think that this debate...
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which cand date has a better policy on jobs and every time mitt romney talks about it in the debate or adyou saw the democrat line rose . for mitt romney, the next 30 days has to be that. and barak obama four year legacy is failure on crating jobs and why governor romney's approach is more aprorbable. >> and the obama people came back with a response. look at it and tell us what you found. >> too many americans are struggling to find work in today's economy. i like to fire people. too many of those working are living pay check to pay check. >> 10,000 bucks in president obama and i both care about poor and middle class. i am not concerned about the poor. >> my policy will make thippings better for them. >> it is not to worry about those emp they should take responsibility. i am mitt romney and i approved this message. >> and frank, tell us what that tells us. >> it tells us negative ad does work. they are using romney's actul word said against him they show the contrast. romney's assertion and response and it is measured. there is no announcer and no angering music behind the voices it
which cand date has a better policy on jobs and every time mitt romney talks about it in the debate or adyou saw the democrat line rose . for mitt romney, the next 30 days has to be that. and barak obama four year legacy is failure on crating jobs and why governor romney's approach is more aprorbable. >> and the obama people came back with a response. look at it and tell us what you found. >> too many americans are struggling to find work in today's economy. i like to fire people....
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mitt romney talks about the 47% of americans. senators scott brown and elizabeth warren based off wednesday in the third of the four televised debates. in 2010, scott brown defeated martha coakley in a special election for the post held by the late ted kennedy for almost 47 years. this debate is courtesy of -- >> good evening. welcome to symphony hall for a debate between scott brown and elizabeth warren. i am honored to be the moderator tonight. we have rules this evening. our audience of more than 2600 guests have agreed to be silent. no interruptions or applause. each candidate has a minute and 30 seconds to answer each question, and 30 seconds for rebuttal. later, each candidate gets one minute for a closing statement. a coin toss has determined the speaker order. we have received more than 200. every question is based on an idea from the public. elizabeth warren won the first coin toss. just last week, we saw the national unemployment numbers fall below 8%. millions of americans are still looking for jobs. things are especia
mitt romney talks about the 47% of americans. senators scott brown and elizabeth warren based off wednesday in the third of the four televised debates. in 2010, scott brown defeated martha coakley in a special election for the post held by the late ted kennedy for almost 47 years. this debate is courtesy of -- >> good evening. welcome to symphony hall for a debate between scott brown and elizabeth warren. i am honored to be the moderator tonight. we have rules this evening. our audience...